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  • #32862
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster

    “a 'stab' at world peace” – nice metaphor, nick.
    see you at the conference.

    #32863
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Rather than burying the charcoal the benefit could be much greater if fed to cows and vegetarians….

    Have you suggested this to Mrs Grant? Dunno about world peace but I can't see this enhancing domestic peace chez Grant.

    #32864
    Nick Grant
    Member

    Didn't have anyone in mind!

    #32865
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster

    Glad to see from the lack of postings here that every one is engaged in reducing emissions – and not relying on mad ideas to save the world…or are they?!

    #32866

    Or is it simply a mad idea that we can save the world?

    #32867
    David Olivier
    Participant

    The consensus at a recent conference of energy experts at Claverton – see energyresearchgroup.eu – was that we'll need even more measures than we're suggesting here, as the world's climate is getting really out of hand. But insulating and draughtproofing our buildings would be a start.

    D.

    #32868
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster

    Of course its mad that we can save our world (as it is).

    It might be like passengers 'managing' a train crash (Forget the driver helping – given the current lack of suitable leadership – he just seems to speed up). I can't work out whether it is the rear or middle carriages that are the safest in a crash, but I do know that the poor s*$ds hanging on the outside are in trouble.

    There may be problems with this metaphor.

    There is money to be made in advising the super rich which are the 'safest carriages' to ride in – I think James Lovelock complains of being asked after lectures where best to build that (fortified) 'retirement' home.

    #32869
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster
    #32870
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Or is it simply a mad idea that we can save the world?

    As a species we've lived through major climate upheavals before at a time when we had very little of the technical knowledge that we do now, I can't see how we'll die out, major population reduction? Yeah, I reckon, but if we really are doomed our world will survive just fine, it'll just be doing so without us.

    #32871
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster

    About time we had some more mad ideas…..

    #32872
    David Olivier
    Participant

    The Inst of Mech Engineers is now saying that we need to construct artificial trees, although for reasons that I don't understand it appears that a possibly more favourable activity such as seeding the oceans with small amounts of iron is still “off”. So I guess that mad ideas are now mainstream.

    David

    #32873
    Nick Grant
    Member

    Yes, when I heard that I thought, another case of you heard it first on the AECB forum! Thing is we we always knew they were mad ideas.

    #32874
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster

    Nothing new here, but lets keep this thread alive…
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7921619.stm

    #32875
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster

    I like this (full doc attached) :
    (so er, does it mean we have to turn off our industrial hairdryers?..or did I get that wrong….)

    “One sure bet is that this decade will be the warmest in history. Yes, some scientists assert that there is decadal variability and the next decade or two could be cooler. How do we know they are wrong? Because, as we show in reference 4, the planet is now out of balance by about ¾ of a watt per square meter of Earth's surface averaged over the solar cycle. It may not sound like much, but that is a lot of energy (in an interesting unit suggested in a colleague's paper, Sarah Purkey and Greg Johnson?), the ¾ W/m2 corresponds, assuming a global populations of 7 billion, to every man, woman, and child on the planet running simultaneously 40 industrial strength 1400 watt hair dryers 24 hours a day 365 days a year). This energy is enough to cause the ocean to slowly warm and ice to melt all over the planet……”

    #32876
    ceoadmin
    Keymaster

    Replying to myself – not a good sign…..

    If we choose the right image for ideas one can make an impact: thought the hairdryer image was too perjorative wrt women – so how about 20 of these (attached) left turned on for each person on the planet to illustrate Hansen's paper?

    I can see a 'nice' AECB postcard developing here – any more suggestions for 'best bit of kit' to demonstrate continuously burning 1.4 kw for every child, woman, man on the planet?

    Postcard = image of person + 1.4kw kit x 40 no.

    we could consider a polar bear taking its coat off….?

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