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    • #31615
      Anonymous

        Can anyone please advise whether lifts form part of the treated floor area in PHPP?

        Thanks
        Daniela

      • #38348
        Anonymous

          Hi Daniela

          I advised my clients on an apartment block refit to site the new lifts outside the TFA. A lot of the German retrofits seem to have done this. I can post links if you want.

          Ralph

        • #38349
          Nick Grant
          Participant

            Not included in TFA.

            If TFA rules were to be revised and simplified (a few of us have argued for this) then I'd push for lifts to be included but that's another thread elsewhere.

            Nick

          • #38350
            Anonymous

              If TFA rules were to be revised and simplified (a few of us have argued for this)

              Yea, +42

              then I'd push for lifts to be included but that's another thread elsewhere.

              Why? It's not exactly habitable space; more like stairs, surely?

            • #38351
              Nick Grant
              Participant

                My thinking is more WRT domestic. You might get 2 identical homes but one has a wheelchair user so needs a lift, not something people add to be flamboyant.

                Nick

              • #38352
                Anonymous

                  That makes sense, and illustrates how political footballs are created, I suppose. It all depends on whether the client is an obnoxious millionaire footballer/banker or a social housing association building for a differently-abled salt-of-the-earth person. I begin to understand why PHI punted the definition to somebody else (some German rental law makers, AIUI)!

                • #38353
                  Nick Grant
                  Participant

                    🙂

                    I'm driven more by wanting to simplify than campaigning for fairness on this one. Whatever metric is chosen it will be wrong and open to game play.

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